Summary-line: 8-Jan n, wilcox@cis.ohio-state. #Re: Immune: Dioxins *** EOOH *** Return-Path: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 91 17:13:09 pst From: cnorman (Cynthia Norman) To: cnorman, wilcox@cis.ohio-state.edu, luna@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu, ames!chinet.chi.il.us!chaz@ucsd.edu, anasaz!john@asuvax.eas.asu.edu, dwyer@nosc.mil, jgautier@ads.com, b-davis@cai.utah.edu, richter@triton.unm.edu, hxkpy@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu, botteron@bu-it.bu.edu, rollo@xylogics.com, proud@ihlpy.att.com, bill@picard.att.com, jsparkes@bnr.ca, island!green@uunet.uu.net, ann@snow-white.merit-tech.com, iex!neptune.iex.com!bert@uunet.uu.net, siang@biochem.umass.edu, smalley@pilot.njin.net, king@reasoning.com, mnetor!perle!kevin@cs.toronto.edu, afc@shibaya.lonestar.org, mark.ochsankehl@p2.f175.n120.z1.fidonet.org, abc@brl.mil, pjz@ceres.physics.uiowa.edu, ardyk@tc.fluke.com, cyn@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu, ogicse!sequent!roseal@ucsd.edu, paulxxxx@portia.stanford.edu, andrea@sdd.hp.com, mvac23!thomas@udel.edu, ames!claris!netcom!shelamer@ucsd.edu, nick@icad.com, marks@ocfmail.ocf.llnl.gov, schillin@scl.cwru.edu, 880039a@acadiau.ca Subject: Re: Immune: Dioxins Reply-To: cnorman@ucsd.edu Date: Mon, 7 Jan 91 21:07:22 EST From: Brinton Cooper Subject: Re: Immune: Dioxins Organization: BRL Is it correct the chlorine is the culprit in creating dioxins during the bleaching of paper? Yes. It is some reaction the chlorine has during the paper-making process. As I said, I have no idea if chlorine used outside of this process (eg, pools, household cleaning) has the same effect. I hope that society doesn't do anything drastic about chlorine. Before chlorinated water supplies and swimming pools, bacterial infection was rampant. Bacterial and microbal infections can still swiftly cause serious illness and death. As one afflicted with an autoimmune disorder, I am chemically immunosuppressed in order not to be ill; I'd feel quite vulnerable without good, effective disinfectants. _Brint Chlorine is NOT necessary for bleaching paper products. Some products (TP, napkins, coffee filters) don't need to be bleached (ie, gleaming white) at all. Others can be bleached by alternative methods that do not produce dioxin. (Also, dyed paper products are bleached first.) I don't know the answer for swimming pools (a luxury, certainly) and drinking water, but for general household cleaning, Borax disinfects perfectly adquetely (per hospital studies). Baking soda or borax help take stains out of clothes. If you insist on using some bleach in the wash, replace half of it with baking soda (it really works!). Of course, dioxin is only one of the many contaminants we have to put up with. . . ------------------------ Responses to old messages and the beginning of new messages are strongly encouraged. Send postings directly to me with a message stating you want it sent to the entire list (don't reply to the long list of names (unless you want to send mail to someone indivually) because I am adding names almost daily). Cyndi cnorman@ucsd.edu