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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 91 17:43:09 EST
From: Thomas Lapp <thomas%mvac23.uucp@udel.edu>

> The important issues concerning news group vs mail list include these:
>
>    2. Some users, especially university undergraduates, face severe
> retrictions on the amount of disk storage they may occupy.  If the
> discussion becomes particularly active and the user's mailbox grows
> large, the total disk usage may exceed quota and the user will be denied
> access to the account.

If this happens, it is a failure in the mail package and/or operating
system.  The system should never allow mail to fill to a point where
the user cannot log onto his/her account.  If it requires writing a
second copy of the incoming mail (as one system does), than the
system should not allow the user to have more than 50% of the disk
space filled.

In all systems that I've worked with, even if the users disk space
fills up, there are temp. workarounds which allow the user to
allocate more space on a temporary basis to allow reading of mail
and cleanup.  All system admins. should be able to help users with
this.
                         - tom
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